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Snippets of these conversations have been incorporated into the "Ruminations" portion of this project. The full-length interviews are provided Here. 

In this conversation, Dr. Baker defines and describes his stance as a counter-advocate of psi phenomena. Specifically, he expresses concerns with the non-reproducibility of parapsychology experiments, the potential for confirmation bias, and the lack of a unifying theory behind psi effects.

In this conversation, Dr. Mann discusses his stance as an advocate of psi phenomena, citing evidence that led him to adopt this position. He also speculates as to why western science is at odds with psi phenomena and explores the question, "Can you envision a coming together of these presently disparate concerns?"  

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